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Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 15 @ 9:26 AM ET
Ty Anderson: Bruins stonewalled by Oilers' Talbot in OT loss
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Dec 15 @ 9:53 AM ET
Marchand was on fire last night... Can we start talking about him as an elite winger?
OilRunsDeep
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.05.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:01 AM ET
The overtime match ups were questionable. Boston had better options.
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Dec 15 @ 10:35 AM ET
The overtime match ups were questionable. Boston had better options.
- OilRunsDeep


Couldn't agree more. How do you not start with Bergeron and Marchand?
Videoj
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 01.20.2015

Dec 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
Couldn't agree more. How do you not start with Bergeron and Marchand?
- Shaundre93


As a text my friend whose a wings fan saying they started Ferraro, they got scored on. I understand rewarding the kid for an awesome game, but not starting the OT!
beaumatters
Joined: 07.26.2006

Dec 15 @ 11:35 AM ET
Agree Ty..... the Oilers played down to Boston's level, but managed to regroup and dominate in OT. Good win, but they must be better against teams like Boston if they are going to succeed...
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Dec 15 @ 11:43 AM ET
We did not deserve that win, however, every team from time to time gets bailed out by their goalie. (Pittsburgh, Montreal, Washington, etc) Not only that, but there were some questionable ref miscalls, especially that backcheck to Draisaitl and the disallowed goal for Eberle.

I'm just glad for the two points. Oilers are in an actual playoff position due to the pacific poopshow this year. Hope it stays that way. It would be great to leave the coliseum on a high note.
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
That was a treat watching the game last night. This Bruins club look dominating for most of the game. Either Edmonton was that bad or Boston was that good. The team is exciting to watch, and seems more physical and faster then last year for sure.
Claude Julien, great coach and all, but continues to cost this team extra points with his stubborn attitude towards the extra frames. He refuses to work with the team on shootouts which cost them a playoff spot last year. His decision to go with Ferraro and Spooner to lead the OT is questionable at best.
9prostock
Boston Bruins
Location: Fredericton, NB
Joined: 12.07.2011

Dec 15 @ 12:39 PM ET
Last night's effort was fun to watch for Bruins fans. Last years squad would've coasted around for 50 mins and then tried to give it a shot at the end. This year's bruins seem to have really figured out how to put in 60 mins. Its great. They seemed to dominate last night's game, but also go lucky with that early whistle that kept the goal in 2nd from being allowed. As for the OT line, sometimes you gotta see what guys are made of and throw them in the fire. So, 2pts would've been nice, but 1 was better than Detroit
mailman
Boston Bruins
Location: Boston
Joined: 07.06.2006

Dec 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
Ferraro and Spooner have been flying the last couple of games..he tried to match speed with EDM and got burned, lesson learned.
mixturebill
Boston Bruins
Location: West Springfield, MA
Joined: 02.07.2014

Dec 15 @ 3:42 PM ET
I know you're all going to think I'm crazy... but I think this team could be set up to make a deep run into the playoffs. I get a serious deja-2011/13 feel when watching them play. They have the heart, and put in the effort, which is certainly something that couldn't be said about last years team.

It all would depend on how Tuukka is playing come playoff time, and also how our top players are performing, but if Marcy, Bergy, Krecji, and Loui can keep playing solid... we have so much depth to help out along the way. The big question mark is the D... I think they need to seriously figure out something with Chara (cut his minutes puh-leaaaasssseeee, he's still averaging like 24mins). If they can figure out a solid defensive line-up to stick with, then maybe the D figures it out by the time the playoffs are here. But if we're going to be switching out this guy in this game, and then these two guys for that game, and this guy for that guy... it's going to be tough for the D to feel any consistency. And it's not exactly like we have all sorts of cap space to play with... so the D situation will be interesting.
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
I know you're all going to think I'm crazy... but I think this team could be set up to make a deep run into the playoffs. I get a serious deja-2011/13 feel when watching them play. They have the heart, and put in the effort, which is certainly something that couldn't be said about last years team.

It all would depend on how Tuukka is playing come playoff time, and also how our top players are performing, but if Marcy, Bergy, Krecji, and Loui can keep playing solid... we have so much depth to help out along the way. The big question mark is the D... I think they need to seriously figure out something with Chara (cut his minutes puh-leaaaasssseeee, he's still averaging like 24mins). If they can figure out a solid defensive line-up to stick with, then maybe the D figures it out by the time the playoffs are here. But if we're going to be switching out this guy in this game, and then these two guys for that game, and this guy for that guy... it's going to be tough for the D to feel any consistency. And it's not exactly like we have all sorts of cap space to play with... so the D situation will be interesting.

- mixturebill



I like your enthusiasm. The team is energetic and looks good and can compete against anyone in the league.
What is with the hate on for Chara? I never understand why people give this guy such a rough time? He was hurt last year and had an off year, granted. This year, do you think the teams moderate success has anything to do with Chara? Yah I think so! He is having a pretty good year so far. He is +10 with 5 goals and 12 assists in 27 games while playing top minutes as a #1 dman.




Videoj
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 01.20.2015

Dec 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
I know you're all going to think I'm crazy... but I think this team could be set up to make a deep run into the playoffs. I get a serious deja-2011/13 feel when watching them play. They have the heart, and put in the effort, which is certainly something that couldn't be said about last years team.

It all would depend on how Tuukka is playing come playoff time, and also how our top players are performing, but if Marcy, Bergy, Krecji, and Loui can keep playing solid... we have so much depth to help out along the way. The big question mark is the D... I think they need to seriously figure out something with Chara (cut his minutes puh-leaaaasssseeee, he's still averaging like 24mins). If they can figure out a solid defensive line-up to stick with, then maybe the D figures it out by the time the playoffs are here. But if we're going to be switching out this guy in this game, and then these two guys for that game, and this guy for that guy... it's going to be tough for the D to feel any consistency. And it's not exactly like we have all sorts of cap space to play with... so the D situation will be interesting.

- mixturebill


I think the D should be set by now. I like what they've been rolling with:

Chara McQuaid
Seids C. Miller
Krug K. Miller

If K. Miller makes too many mistakes, plug in Trotman. Morrow is on a 2-way contract. Send him down and let him play. Keeping him around is doing nothing but causing a logjam. Kevin Miller is 28 and UFA next season. Use him and see if we like him. If he makes unforgivable mistakes (which plenty of you seem to believe) then sub him for Trotman.

Pasta should be back within the next two weeks. He's at practice. I think the problem is going to be the logjam in the forwards.

Belesky Krej Erik
Marchand Bergeron Connolly/Hayes
Vatrano Spooner Pasta
Rinaldo Ferraro Randell

Kemp extra
Talbot sent down

My problem is the Connolly vs. Hayes.

The fourth line works for neither of them, and I think it should be set with those three. I think Rinaldo is valuable on this team. He draws penalties and gives effort every shift. Ferraro is a pleasant surprise, former 1st round pick, and is effective on the PK. Randell just has something about him that makes me think he deserves a shot.

The rest of the top 8 are all working really well. Trade Hayes, or trade Connolly depending on the return. It is too early to give up on them, however, the way the young prospects are playing, (Senyshen two hattricks last week, and Debrusk is like 1.5 PPG average just sayin') there's no room for these 3rd liner projects that usually don't work out (think Pouliot, Lapointe, etc.) Clear the way for next year.
Videoj
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 01.20.2015

Dec 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
I like your enthusiasm. The team is energetic and looks good and can compete against anyone in the league.
What is with the hate on for Chara? I never understand why people give this guy such a rough time? He was hurt last year and had an off year, granted. This year, do you think the teams moderate success has anything to do with Chara? Yah I think so! He is having a pretty good year so far. He is +10 with 5 goals and 12 assists in 27 games while playing top minutes as a #1 dman.

- Tachmo


I don't think it's the hate for Chara, I think he is playing too much time. Cut his time so he has more energy come playoffs!
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
I don't think it's the hate for Chara, I think he is playing too much time. Cut his time so he has more energy come playoffs!
- Videoj


ahhh. I see. Yes then I agree that does make sense! But maybe cutting his time leaves them a touch more vulnerable during the game.
The real problem lies with a lack of another top 4 dman.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Dec 15 @ 5:06 PM ET
Chara - Seidenberg
Boychuck - Ference
Quaider - Kaberle

Chara was in his prime and Norris type player, one of the best D man in hockey.

Seidenberg was considered one of the most underrated D men in hockey, like Seabrook, the sidekick to the superstar D man.

Boychuck was underrated and is the number one D man for the Islanders now.

Ference "peaked" and was playing solid top four hockey, hence the "silly" contract that the Oilers gave him.

McQuaid was healthy and playing well as a bottom guy.

Kaberle........well he was a cluster**** but led the team D in assists.

This team doesn't have a "top guy" or a sidekick. Maybe Chara could be a solid number two with someone else carrying the top mins, but he isn't a top guy right now.

This D isn't in the same league!

Eye test with Chara. Right before your eyes he is aging quickly. Then looking at the forwards this is nothing like the Cup team.

Lucic - Krejci - Horton
Marchand - Bergy - Dr. Rechhi
Pevs - Kelly - Seguin/Ryder
Paile - Campbell - Thornton

All these guys had there best seasons of there careers..........studs! (Seguin did not obviously, but won us a game or two.)
Willspencer10
Boston Bruins
Joined: 04.02.2013

Dec 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
Chara - Seidenberg
Boychuck - Ference
Quaider - Kaberle

Chara was in his prime and Norris type player, one of the best D man in hockey.

Seidenberg was considered one of the most underrated D men in hockey, like Seabrook, the sidekick to the superstar D man.

Boychuck was underrated and is the number one D man for the Islanders now.

Ference "peaked" and was playing solid top four hockey, hence the "silly" contract that the Oilers gave him.

McQuaid was healthy and playing well as a bottom guy.

Kaberle........well he was a cluster**** but led the team D in assists.

This team doesn't have a "top guy" or a sidekick. Maybe Chara could be a solid number two with someone else carrying the top mins, but he isn't a top guy right now.

This D isn't in the same league!

Eye test with Chara. Right before your eyes he is aging quickly. Then looking at the forwards this is nothing like the Cup team.

Lucic - Krejci - Horton
Marchand - Bergy - Dr. Rechhi
Pevs - Kelly - Seguin/Ryder
Paile - Campbell - Thornton

All these guys had there best seasons of there careers..........studs! (Seguin did not obviously, but won us a game or two.)

- JIwasinskiJr


There are a few spots where this current team is stronger that the 2011 team...I'll take Krug/2015McQuaid over Kaberle/2011McQuaid. I'll even take 2015 Marchand over 2011 Marchand.

I agree that overall, no they aren't quite as good as 2011. Honestly though, they aren't far off and if the D improves (maybe with a trade?), they could probably make some noise in the playoffs. Washington and Montreal have the B's number lately, but none of the other teams in the east have really established themselves. Avoid Washington/Montreal in the first round and who knows what could happen
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Dec 15 @ 6:14 PM ET
There are a few spots where this current team is stronger that the 2011 team...I'll take Krug/2015McQuaid over Kaberle/2011McQuaid. I'll even take 2015 Marchand over 2011 Marchand.

I agree that overall, no they aren't quite as good as 2011. Honestly though, they aren't far off and if the D improves (maybe with a trade?), they could probably make some noise in the playoffs. Washington and Montreal have the B's number lately, but none of the other teams in the east have really established themselves. Avoid Washington/Montreal in the first round and who knows what could happen

- Willspencer10


My greatest concern, among others, is a series with any quick/skilled team.

When you play in a series against one team you game plan an attack. The attack plan from Detroit, Tampa, islanders, rags, Habs, etc. all fast teams. Hit hit hit Chara and Seidenberg.

If you forechecking hard and hit the D, too young AND too old, you will force tons of turnovers AND wear them down to the point of injury.

That's what will happen in the playoffs against most of the teams and why I just don't think we would hang for a deep run.............unless C. Miller, Morrow, and Trotman take HUGE steps to improve.

NOTE: Pretty sure al of the D-men on the big club right now would need to clear waivers if they are to be sent down to the P Bs.

Which is why Morrow would be lost in a heartbeat if sent to the minors. This was a concern of my since the begging of the season. I'm waiting for them to try to send him down quietly and some other team to grab him.

One of these guys lost to waivers is enevitable and the smart move would be to let Sidenberg or Quaider go instead of one of them.........until we are sure they are not going to make the team "next season."
Videoj
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 01.20.2015

Dec 15 @ 10:15 PM ET
My greatest concern, among others, is a series with any quick/skilled team.

When you play in a series against one team you game plan an attack. The attack plan from Detroit, Tampa, islanders, rags, Habs, etc. all fast teams. Hit hit hit Chara and Seidenberg.

If you forechecking hard and hit the D, too young AND too old, you will force tons of turnovers AND wear them down to the point of injury.

That's what will happen in the playoffs against most of the teams and why I just don't think we would hang for a deep run.............unless C. Miller, Morrow, and Trotman take HUGE steps to improve.

NOTE: Pretty sure al of the D-men on the big club right now would need to clear waivers if they are to be sent down to the P Bs.

Which is why Morrow would be lost in a heartbeat if sent to the minors. This was a concern of my since the begging of the season. I'm waiting for them to try to send him down quietly and some other team to grab him.

One of these guys lost to waivers is enevitable and the smart move would be to let Sidenberg or Quaider go instead of one of them.........until we are sure they are not going to make the team "next season."

- JIwasinskiJr


Does two-way contract not mean you can be sent down?

Morrow and C. Miller both on two ways.
Willspencer10
Boston Bruins
Joined: 04.02.2013

Dec 16 @ 7:10 AM ET
Does two-way contract not mean you can be sent down?

Morrow and C. Miller both on two ways.

- Videoj


I think two-way means you get paid one amount at the NHL level and another amount at the AHL level. A one-way contract means you get paid the same in NHL or AHL.

Morrow is not wavier-exempt, so he'd have to clear waivers. C.Miller is waiver exempt, so they could send him down, but he looks like he's here to stay.
Burnsy613
Boston Bruins
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 06.16.2015

Dec 16 @ 7:53 AM ET
I think the D should be set by now. I like what they've been rolling with:

Chara McQuaid
Seids C. Miller
Krug K. Miller

If K. Miller makes too many mistakes, plug in Trotman. Morrow is on a 2-way contract. Send him down and let him play. Keeping him around is doing nothing but causing a logjam. Kevin Miller is 28 and UFA next season. Use him and see if we like him. If he makes unforgivable mistakes (which plenty of you seem to believe) then sub him for Trotman.

Pasta should be back within the next two weeks. He's at practice. I think the problem is going to be the logjam in the forwards.

Belesky Krej Erik
Marchand Bergeron Connolly/Hayes
Vatrano Spooner Pasta
Rinaldo Ferraro Randell

Kemp extra
Talbot sent down

My problem is the Connolly vs. Hayes.

The fourth line works for neither of them, and I think it should be set with those three. I think Rinaldo is valuable on this team. He draws penalties and gives effort every shift. Ferraro is a pleasant surprise, former 1st round pick, and is effective on the PK. Randell just has something about him that makes me think he deserves a shot.

The rest of the top 8 are all working really well. Trade Hayes, or trade Connolly depending on the return. It is too early to give up on them, however, the way the young prospects are playing, (Senyshen two hattricks last week, and Debrusk is like 1.5 PPG average just sayin') there's no room for these 3rd liner projects that usually don't work out (think Pouliot, Lapointe, etc.) Clear the way for next year.

- Videoj



the two way contract for morrow is irrelevant, he still needs to clear waivers. k miller should never see the lineup barring injury, he's shown too many weaknesses so far. mcquaid should never play top line he's just not skilled enough for that kind of role.

the squad should balance out more like:

Chara- C Miller
Krug-Seidenberg
Morrow-Mcquaid
ex: trotman, K miller

there is going to be a jam on the wing soon. I think it'll force DS to move Loui Eriksson maybe before the TD. wouldn't it be nice to see him pull a vermette! get us a 1st and a prospect and then resign in the offseason.

hayes I think could be way better but we knew what we were getting. he's not going to break his style now. I wish he played a bit more like his brother. Connolly only seems to do well on Bergy's line... so that could be an issue. he'd make a good 3rd line RW for the moment.
Burnsy613
Boston Bruins
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 06.16.2015

Dec 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
with Koko being recalled :

Hope we see

Belesky-Krecji-Eriksson
Marchand-Bergeron-Connolly
Spooner-Koko-Vatrano (CJ Nightmare! lol)
Randel-Ferraro-Hayes


Chara-C Miller
Krug-Seidenberg
Morrow-Mcquaid

Rask

that would seem ideal for me